Колдер Трофи 2011

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Новости хоккея: Колдер Трофи 2011Прежняя тема исчерпала себя)

Постепенно входим в новый сезон.

Для начала пишем по 3 любимых кандидата. Ибо в силу наших высочайших аналитических способностей у нас каждый год одни и те же кандидаты. Так что проблем с выбором не возникнет)

1) Никита Филатов
2) Тэйлор Холл
3) Логан Кутюр
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Sorry in English
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/36069-Oilers-B...

I saw the after game show on the CBC (Hockey Night in Canada - After Hours) just a few weeks ago and they had Eberle on there really promoting him.
He is the fan favourite in Canada for sure.
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Eberle obviously possesses an uncanny natural scoring ability, but he simply will have to withstand and endure the physical intensity of 82 game NHL schedule, which he will have trouble doing this season)
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Ну уж если реально смотреть на вещи, то Кутюр возьмет однозначно! :)
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Ну если бы вы весь сезон играли с Тампой и Коламбусом то это вполне реально конечно =D

Кутюра как в свое время Райана, Верстига может погубить то, что в своем непосредственно дебютном сезоне он сыграл более 10 игр и в принципе пока особо не блещет...

Мне бы вот еще чрезвычайно интересно было бы посмотреть на Ника Бьюгстэда во Флориде, но видимо уже в следующем сезоне)
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2 Roman

If you look at the overall schedule Eberle faced in the WHl combined with the toughness and the travel distances of the league - all by bus - you might be surprised at how well he stands up.

Take a look at what Eberle just said about the upcoming marathon trip:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/sports/Oilers+newbies...

You forget that although the Pats did not make the playoffs Eberle ended up playing lots of games with Team Canada as well as spending the tail ends of two seasons with the Oilers minor affiliate.
Eberle also carried the Pats on his back for the past couple of seasons, something that is expected of him in Edmonton. He is accustomed to the role.
I realize that the NHL is a step up but in many ways he has played two 80 game seasons already before entering the NHL.
There is a lot of weight on his shoulders in Edmonton for sure, but he has been there already with the Canadian junior squad and stepped up in the IIHF championship.

Others might be shining right now like Skinner but they will fade.

The smart money will be bet on Eberle.
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Robert, nothing new to me about Eberle, WHL etc))

Yeah, he is a pure goal scorer. Possesses a very quick and deadly wrist shot. He is also a magician with the puck, making veteran defenders look dumb on some plays, and this is the WHL we are talking about. The WHL is much more of a defensive league than the other 2 where everyone scrores 100 points, and he is almost a goal per game player. Eberle is also pretty good defensively as well.

He has great vision, always knows where his line mates are. Very good passer. His last linemate, Tim Kraus (should be in pro now), who played with Gilbert Brule (CLB) on the giants, said that Eberle is probably more skilled than Brule was at that age.

The knock on him is obviously his size. Kind of smallish at 5'11 170, and the fact he got his first penalty of the last season (21 games without). So it shows that he is a very smart player, but that he also isnt gritty at all. I guess he occasionally throws the odd hit, but not much more. I dont see him standing up for his teammates and getting rough though.

Surprisingly, he is actually pretty hard to knock off the puck, and is very good at stealing the puck from opposing teams.

So really, pure offensive player, great scorer and playmaker, though still competant in both ends. Already one of the smartest players on the ice in the league, but he is not the least bit gritty. Hard to knock off the puck though, that is a plus, but he is in Oilersdom now and everything can happen)

My favorite 2010 Rookie is obviously Jeff Skinner, so i will stand up and praise him =D
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"Others might be shining right now like Skinner but they will fade."

Maybe, or maybe not)
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I can see good things in Skinner. The Oilers dream team of rookies but they certainly did not impress the other night in Carolina did they?

A thing about Eberle is he has the "Saskatchewan Roughrider mentaltiy" and so far in his hockey career he has always been playing for his hoime team that he idolized.

He was in Wilcox - a hockey factory just a half hour from his and my home - he played for the Pats - his home town, he played for Team Canada and now he is playing for the Oilers - his favourtie team gowing up and also close to home - Eberle has always played from the heart and like the Saskatchewan Roughriders he is not a quitter and he will keep coming until the final whistle blows.

You would not believe how hard people will play - despite the limitations of size - if they are doing it for something that is near and dear to them like your hometown.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/timwharnsby/2010/11/e...

One thing I have learnt though when it comes to greatness in the NHL size does not always matter - heart, determination, natural talent and drive - have often won the day.

Take a look at some of the great players that were smaller and what they achieved:

Bobby Orr
Wayne Gretzky
Joe Sakic
Thereon Fleury - would have been better if not for Graham James
Martin St Louis - Lady Byng Trophy winner
and many others people said would not make it in the league.

It all comes down to heart and how much they want it in my humble opinion.
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I think we can agree on one thing and that this year ithe NHL has a lot of really talented rookies to chose from compared to many other years.

Hey we might both be fooled and maybe a certain goalie - Michal Neuvirth- could take the Calder. If he can backstop his team to a great year he might prove both of us wrong. So far he has filled in stupendously and saved a certain Russian hotdog (Ovechkin) on more than one outing.

As an inside it is good to hear other opinions and discuss this stuff without taking the gloves off....)))))
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www.nhl.com picked Magnus Paajarvi as the likely Calder Cup winner but I don't know about that one.

http://oilers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=539822

I am a big Bruins' fan but I do not see Tyler Seguin in the running he is just too young for it.
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2Roman

I took a better look at Skinner's stats and abilities and I will have to agree that he could be a great one.
Some people might discount him because of his 5 foot 10 inch height.
But he seems to have a lot of smarts both when he has and does not have the puck.
Playing in Carolina might also make him shine in the eyes of hockey writers that in the end will say who deserves the Calder.
What do you think about John Carlson's chances?
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Oilers really did not impress last night with Rangers =DD Sad birthday for Taylor Hall)

About Carlson, i like USHL rookies and think he may be all-situation defender, capable of putting up points as well as playing physical and a strong defensive game))
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All-Time Top 50 Point-Scoring Rookies
Rookie Team Position Season GP G A PTS
1. * Teemu Selanne Winnipeg Right wing 1992-93 84 76 56 132
2. * Peter Stastny Quebec Center 1980-81 77 39 70 109
3. * Alex Ovechkin Washington Left wing 2005-06 81 52 54 106
4. * Dale Hawerchuk Winnipeg Center 1981-82 80 45 58 103
5. Joe Juneau Boston Center 1992-93 84 32 70 102
Sidney Crosby Pittsburgh Center 2005-06 81 39 63 102
7. * Mario Lemieux Pittsburgh Center 1984-85 73 43 57 100
8. Neal Broten Minnesota Center 1981-82 73 38 60 98
9. * Bryan Trottier NY Islanders Center 1975-76 80 32 63 95
10. Barry Pederson Boston Center 1981-82 80 44 48 92
* Joe Nieuwendyk Calgary Center 1987-88 75 51 41 92
12. * Mike Bossy NY Islanders Right wing 1977-78 73 53 38 91
13. * Steve Larmer Chicago Right wing 1982-83 80 43 47 90
14. Marian Stastny Quebec Right wing 1981-82 74 35 54 89
15. Steve Yzerman Detroit Center 1983-84 80 39 48 87
16. * Sergei Makarov Calgary Right wing 1989-90 80 24 62 86
17. Anton Stastny Quebec Left wing 1980-81 80 39 46 85
18. * Evgeni Malkin Pittsburgh Center 2006-07 78 33 52 85
19. * Luc Robitaille Los Angeles Left wing 1986-87 79 45 39 84
20. Mikael Renberg Philadelphia Left wing 1993-94 83 38 44 82
21. Jimmy Carson Los Angeles Center 1986-87 80 37 42 79
Sergei Fedorov Detroit Center 1990-91 77 31 48 79
Alexei Yashin Ottawa Center 1993-94 83 30 49 79
24. Paul Stastny Colorado Center 2006-07 82 28 50 78
25. Marcel Dionne Detroit Center 1971-72 78 28 49 77
26. Larry Murphy Los Angeles Defense 1980-81 80 16 60 76
Mark Pavelich NY Rangers Center 1981-82 79 33 43 76
Dave Poulin Philadelphia Center 1983-84 73 31 45 76
29. Brian Propp Philadelphia Left wing 1979-80 80 34 41 75
Jari Kurri Edmonton Left wing 1980-81 75 32 43 75
Denis Savard Chicago Center 1980-81 76 28 47 75
Mike Modano Minnesota Center 1989-90 80 29 46 75
Eric Lindros Philadelphia Center 1992-93 61 41 34 75
34. Rick Martin Buffalo Left wing 1971-72 73 44 30 74
* Bobby Smith Minnesota Center 1978-79 80 30 44 74
36. Jorgen Pettersson St. Louis Left wing 1980-81 62 37 36 73
37. * Gilbert Perreault Buffalo Center 1970-71 78 38 34 72
Dale McCourt Detroit Center 1977-78 76 33 39 72
Ron Flockhart Philadelphia Center 1981-82 72 33 39 72
Sylvain Turgeon Hartford Left wing 1983-84 76 40 32 72
Carey Wilson Calgary Center 1984-85 74 24 48 72
Warren Young Pittsburgh Left wing 1984-85 80 40 32 72
Alex Zhamnov Winnipeg Center 1992-93 68 25 47 72
* Patrick Kane Chicago Right Wing 2007-08 82 21 51 72
45. Mike Foligno Detroit Right wing 1979-80 80 36 35 71
Dave Christian Winnipeg Center 1980-81 80 28 43 71
Mats Naslund Montreal Left wing 1982-83 74 26 45 71
Kjell Dahlin Montreal Right wing 1985-86 77 32 39 71
* Brian Leetch NY Rangers Defense 1988-89 68 23 48 71
50. Bill Mosienko Chicago Right wing 1943-44 50 32 38 70
* Scott Gomez New Jersey Center 99-2000 82 19 51 70
* Calder Trophy Winner
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Люк в топ-20 это очень круто, как для игрока взятого в 9-м раунде))
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у лос анджелеса больше всех удачных и провальных выборов на драфте- очень весело
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Да уж, при Тэйлоре выбирали мы всякую непотребность))

Кстати Скиннер, Степан и Эберле лидируют по очкам среди новичков этого сезона, мой прогноз подтверждается =D

Скиннер кстати сегодня 1+1 в матче с Бостоном)
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Колдер Бобрик возьмет!
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То Бобрик, то Кутюр, то Фаулер, вы определитесь)
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Теперь уже точно Бобрик)
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То Бурмистров) На самом деле ничего не точно, сезон длинный, все прекрасно понимают, что в воротах Флайерз и культурно поставленное бревно будет стоять не хуже какого-нибудь Эрсберга, к тому же есть Нойвирт и непонятно, что еще из Кори Кроуфорда получится и как будут дальше играть Ястребы)

Да и минус для Бобровского - Колдер у воротника и защитника подряд)
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Но на данный момент - Бобровский однозначно претендент номер 1) в том числе и по мнению офф.сайта лиги. Понятно, что еще и половина сезона не прошла и неизвестно, что будет дальше, но если он продолжит так же феерично играть - никто не посмотрит, кому давали Колдер в прошлом и позапрошлом году. У него кстати есть все шансы принять участие в All Stars game... а это для дебютанта лиги просто невероятно :)
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с Бобром интересно.
говорят жеж он это, типа непричем, защита все решает.
надо будет посмотреть за его результатами в плей-офф, когда включаются обороты. пройдет первый раунд, сыграет во втором раунде 6-7 игр - можно будет говорить, что он по полезности не меньше Мэйсона.
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Мнение официального сайта лиги строится на мнении читателей и колумнистов сайта, в прошлом сезоне фаворитом кстати к этому времени был Таварес, а чуть позже Дюшен, кто же взял трофей мы знаем и это были не они)

Особой феерии я пока у него не заметил, это даже не Мэйсон в 08, у которого к этому времени было уже 526 сейвов, он кстати был в 5-ке по этому показателю, Бобровский же пока 10-й с 473, собственно отражает он в среднем по 26 бросков за матч, 15-й показатель в лиге, у Мэйсона был в ноябре 7-й)

Я совсем не против молодых - крепких воротников в лиге, к тому же совсем не против Чашки в Пенсильвании, пока уж в Лос Анджелесе на нее не созреют, но всегда был против преждевременных выводов)

Его участие в матче всех звезд при нынешнем формате - не так уж и невероятно, в любом случае 12 новичков попадут на драфт к капитанам команд)

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