ДЕРБИ - БОСНИЯ И ГЕРЦЕГОВИНА DERBY - Bosnia and Herzegovina

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Sarajevo derby
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Дерби БиГ - это, прежде всего, встреча двух заклятых врагов ФК Железничара и ФК Сараево.
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The Sarajevo derby is a match between big city rivals FK Željezničar Sarajevo and FK Sarajevo, two of the biggest and most popular clubs in Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is generally considered as one of few with the best atmosphere in the region. Fans usually make great decore with a lot of big flags, paper rolls, scarfs and loud chanting. This derby is also similar to the Merseyside derby between Everton and Liverpool; it is not uncommon to see members of the same family that are on opposite sides. They don't speak to each other that day. But when the game ends, provocations are something of a tradition, strangest bets need to be fulfilled, and everybody is waiting for the next one. Although, incidents between younger fans can be seen in recent years.
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History

The history of Sarajevo derby dates back to 1954, but the rivalry began eight years earlier. In 1946 FK Sarajevo was formed by the local authorities. On the other side, FK Željezničar Sarajevo is a club formed in 1921 by a group of railway workers. They won the second-tier Bosnian championship title in 1946, as a part of first post-war Yugoslav league system. Since the idea was to create a new club who would represent the city and the republic on national level, newly formed FK Torpedo (as FK Sarajevo was called at the time) needed the best players from the city, so several FK Željezničar players were transferred to the new club on authorities' decision. These players received good salaries and new suits. Ever since, the rivalry was present between these two clubs.

At first, Sarajevo supporters were considered to be upper-class individuals with ties to the ruling communist authorities. On the other side, supporters of FK Željezničar were usually working-class with liberal image. Those identifications were true in 1950s and 1960s, but these differences were later erased. Both clubs have supporters from all classes and (it is very important to say when we talk about Bosnia) from all ethnic groups, even if FK Sarajevo fan base is predominately Bosniak. FK Željezničar still have the image of liberal club and they are popular even among other supporters in the region.
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Since they played in different levels, first matches between FK Željezničar and FK Sarajevo were friendlies. The first official league match was held in 1954; FK Sarajevo won 6-1. That is still the biggest victory by any team in these matches.

So far (as of October 24, 2010), 96 league matches were played. Both clubs won 29 times, while 38 matches ended with a draw. Goal difference is 117-114 in FK Sarajevo's favour. Since the independence, as a part of Bosnian championship, 33 games were played; Sarajevo won 10 times, Željezničar won 8 times, with 15 draws, and goal difference 39-34 for FK Sarajevo.
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Records

* Most appearances: Slobodan Janjuš - 21 (16 for Željezničar, 5 for Sarajevo)
* Best goalscorers: Asim Ferhatović (Sarajevo), Dželaludin Muharemović (Željezničar) - 6 goals
* Record win: Željezničar - Sarajevo 1:6 (October 10, 1954, first ever league derby)
* Biggest attendance: 55,000 (March 10, 1982, Koševo Stadium)
* Double victory (two wins in a season): Željezničar (1968/1969, 1989/90, 2000/2001); Sarajevo (1955/1956, 1966/1967, 1998/1999, 2006/2007);
* Longest unbeaten run: 11 games (Sarajevo: June 6, 1963 - December 1, 1968; Željezničar: October 15, 2000 - April 5, 2006)
* Longest unbeaten run (home): 17 games (Željezničar: April 3, 1977 - October 26, 1997)
* Longest unbeaten run (away): 6 games (Sarajevo: June 2, 1963 - June 29, 1969; Željezničar: April 28, 2001 - April 21, 2007)
* Longest winning run: 3 games (Željezničar: May 14, 1988 - December 10, 1989; Sarajevo: April 5, 2006 - April 21, 2007)
* Longest winning run (home): 3 games (Željezničar two times: August 23, 1981 - March 18, 1984 & October 10, 1999 - May 11, 2002)
* Longest winning run (away): Two games by both teams on several occasions;

* Radmilo Mihajlović is the only player to score a hat-trick. (September 7, 1986, Željezničar won 4-1).

Note that only league matches are included in statistics. Cup, other tournaments and friendly matches are not included.
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Fans

Probably the best known thing about the Sarajevo derby are the fans. Usually, they are much more exciting to watch than the game itself. Especially in recent times, since the Bosnian championship has at times lacked in quality. Fans create an impressive atmosphere with loud cheering and original choreography. Both sides prepare intensely between the matches, make large flags and special messages that are appropriate for that particular occasion, to be usually directed towards the opposing side.

FK Željezničar's most passionate fans (wearing blue) are called The Maniacs because their love for the club is on the edge of insanity, so it is said. They are located on the South side of stadium (the Holy South as they call it). The older fans ones are known affectionately as the Košpicari (which can metaphorically be translated as "seed eaters", although the name itself has different meaning - namely that of "seed sellers").

FK Sarajevo's most passionate fans (crimson) are called the Horde Zla (Evil hordes) after the popular Zagor comic book. In home games on Koševo Stadium, they are located on the North stands, while the older fans are known as the Pitari (similar to the Košpicari etymology except referring to pie and not seeds) and they are mainly on the East side.

When the derby is played on Grbavica, Horde zla are on the East and NE side of the stadium, The Maniacs are on the South and West side, while the Pitari and Košpicari are on the North. When the games is played on Koševo, The Maniacs are on the South and SW side, Horde zla on the North and the East. Pitari are on the East as well. West stands are mixed with both Pitari and Košpicari sitting there.
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ну в Сараеве есть еще команды Славия(Сараевские сербы,Восточное Сараево) и Олимпик(не могу ничего о них сказать)
Борац Баня Лука(Баня лука столица республики сербской в боснии,там живут тоже серы)
Мостарское дерби(город Мостар) Зриньски-Фудбалски Клуб Мостар
вот пишу фирмы,которые знаю
Лешинари(Коршуны)-Борац(дружба с фирмой-Войводина Нови Сад Сербия)
Red Army(Зриньски)
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This year in a Sarajevo derby, the fans of Sarajevo did not went to Grbavica stadium to cheer for their club, cause the directors of both clubs could not find a solution how many tickets will be given to the Horde Zla (Sarajevo fans). The game ended 0-0 and later one of the Sarajevo fans was stabbed with a knife.
Unfortunately in Bosnia nationalism is a big problem aslo on football fields. This week fans of Široki Brijeg (In Herzegovina) brought a flag of Vatican and a flag of III Reich to their match against FK Sarajevo!
Beside derby in Sarajevo, Mostar Derby is very important. Fans of Velež. The Red Army, are one of the best in the country and probably the most civilized.
It is also worth mentioning football club Čelik Zenica. When they play against any Sarajevo club it is always a game of high risk. Afew years ago one Željezničar fans was killed by a group of Čelik fans - called Robijaši. Relations between cities of Sarajevo and Zenica is very bad..
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Horde Zla (Hordes of Evil) are an Ultras group who support the Bosnian football club FK Sarajevo.

History

The club's supporters were historically called Pitari while an individual was, and is still, known as a Pitar. Their rowdiness during the matches of the time provoked accusations of being dangerous. During a big season game in 1986 a maroon painted snake was thrown off the east stand onto the visitors bench. This is considered the reason club officials opened the North stand of the AFH Stadium to the most enthusiastic of fans. Soon after, the name The Horde Zla was born, when several members of the Pitars created a new identity based on a Zagor comic book of the same name. Today, Pitari and Horde Zla are interchangeable. The Horde Zla became the fastest growing youth organisation in the city of Sarajevo, financing itself through a very well organised, vertically integrated marketing system, as well as a very rigid members policy. During the late 1980s and early 1990s The Horde Zla became infamous for a few of the largest interfan riots and stadium troubles in former Yugoslavia, including the 1991 stabbing of two FK Partizan supporters in front of the FK Partizan stadium in Belgrade and the 1988 riots in the city of Mostar before a league game, resulting in the stabbing of a Mostar resident and the destruction of huge amounts of property
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Unlike most other ultra firms in the former Yugoslavia, The Horde Zla considered themselves as Bosniaks and the other firm's national orientation was often a cause for the troubles created by The Horde Zla, as was in a 1989 basketball game when KK Bosna played KK Crvena Zvezda. When the civil war began, most members of The Horde Zla joined the newly formed Bosnian Army in an effort to defend their city and newly independent state, and many did not survive. Today a plaque exists, to honor The Horde Zla who died defending their city and country. After the war The Horde Zla again took their place on the North stand of the AFH stadium on the 10th. anniversary of the firm's founding. The Horde Zla again were on the front pages when, during the 1998 Sarajevo city derby against FK Željezničar, they invaded the pitch after some members of the FK Željezničar firm, The Maniacs attacked the FK Sarajevo goalkeeper, resulting in a huge on-pitch-fight resulting in over 30 serious injuries and setting on fire the stadium's rubber athletics track.

The Horde Zla again made headlines in October 2009, during the infamous Široki brijeg football riots. The riots resulted in the death of Vedran Puljić, a member of Horde zla and over thirty serious injuries, including four gunshot wounds.
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http://www.sarajevo-x.com/sport/nogomet/clanak/10110... - history of the football stadium Grbavica. Stadium of NK Željezničar Sarajevo (in serbo-croatian)
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Pet povređenih osoba i jedan zapaljen automobil epilog je sukoba navijača Sarajeva i banjalučkog Borca, koji se desio u subotu uveče u blizini Jablanic. Incident se desio na parkiralištu restorana "Zdrava voda", a predhodio mu je verbalni sukob koji je prerastao u fizički obračun.

Povređeni su navijači Sarajeva kojima je lekarska pomoć pružena u Domu zdravlja u Konjicu, dok je jedan navijač prevezen u Sarajevo - pišu Nezavisne.

- Policijska stanica Jablanica je vest o incidentu dobila u 18.30. Za to vreme navijači Borca su autobusima i sopstvenim vozilima nastavili put prema Banjaluci. Nekoliko policijskih patrola dočekalo ih je u Prozoru. Zaustavljeni su jedan autobus, kombi, ali i nekoliko vozila - "pežo", "fiat" i "BMW X5" - istakao je Sead Hakalović, načelnik Operativnog centra Policijske uprave Konjic, i dodao: - U zaustavljenom autobusu i vozilima nalazilo se ukupno 76 osoba. Sve su kriminalistički obrađene, uzeli smo izjave, ali osobe koje su učestvovale u tuči i one koje su zapalile vozilo nisu identifikovane. Svaka osoba je i fotografisana, ali žrtve napada nisu uspele da ih identifikuju.

Inače do sukoba je došlo sasvim slučajno jer su se navijači i jednog i drugog tima vraćali sa različitih mesta. Borac je u Trebinju igrao protiv Leotara, dok je Sarajevo igralo protiv Veleža u Mostaru.
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Красавцы, в следующий раз нужно выбирать маршруты чтоб не пересекались. А ресторан, наверное назывался "ZDRAVA VODKA", а не "ZDRAVA VODA" )))))))))
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Hahaa Zdrava Voda! Zdrava voda is one of the best restaurants in Bosnia. It has the best lamb i've ever eaten! :P And also cheap rakija and beer!
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Pet povređenih osoba i jedan zapaljen automobil epilog - "ZDRAVA VODKA" ))))))
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Eurosport about Edin Dzeko (explayer Zheleznichar) http://vkontakte.ru/video-5668826_156067091
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меня перекличка прет маньяков между двумя трибунами за воротами)
jer kada mi
jer kada mi
navijamo
navijamo
jer kada mi navijamo stadion gori sve se trese na jugu opste ljudio
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ФК «Борац» ― футбольный клуб из Боснии и Герцеговины, базируется в городе Баня-Лука, находящемся в Республике Сербской. В сезоне 2007/08 «Борац», заняв первое место в Первой лиге Республики Сербской, получил право выступать в Премьер-лиге. В настоящее время играет в Премьер-лиге Боснии и Герцеговины. Клуб играет на Городском стадионе (вмещает 7238 зрителей).

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