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Here you can share with your own opinion about their split, which was quite surprising for me and I guess for you as well!
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- FAKEEMO_PIDUHLESS
- 15 января 2015, 06:18
Here you can share with your own opinion about their split, which was quite surprising for me and I guess for you as well!
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"I'm the lowest paid coach at this level in the history of figure skating ... I get $110 an hour, and that is what I charged her. I did make something from Korean commercials, but there was no deal between us for that."
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Also here you can find Information about her new programs for 2010-2011 season.
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http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20100824/orser-...
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:(((
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I was shoked,when I had read this news((I suppose,that for Kim it isn't right decision,I think that it was decision of her mother((
But on the other hand it will be very interesting turn in figure skating,and this decision may have some unexpected consequences))
There are some articles about this event http://www.ifsmagazine.com/forum/
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here is the topic about changing her place of training:
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/figureskating/news/sto...
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I can basic English. Nevertheless, I want to talk about this case.
Although English grammar is wrong, I hope you understand.
Orser's articles are very different from the facts.
Orser said he was fired without reason, 2 August 2010.
But this is completely different from the position of the All That sports.
They(ATS) said have a rest time him, 2 August 2010.
In the meantime, Orser said he will not care anymore 23 August 2010.
'Fire' word does not fit. It is used when the contract state.
Coaching contract ended in April. Nevertheless, he uses the word.
Yuna(ATS) kept the rest, did not renew the contract from May.
The reason she could not decide about the future. She needed time to think about the future(Whether amateur or professional).
Orser also agreed.
He agreed coaching renew the contract(3 billion contract rumor) with IMG(Japan novice skaters' coach) in May.
IMG(Figure Skating Part senior official) is closely related to the Japan Figure Skating Federation. Also, IMG is very bad with All that sports(Yuna,mom).
When she was member of IMG, they returned Yuna's sponsor(KB 국민Bank) without talking to her. She became aware of this fact because of the sponsor to contact her directly.
At that time, She was hard without a sponsor. They were supporting Asada Mao(IMG member). They didn't give her proper support. IMG ignored her.
So she cancel a contract(IMG).
At that time, IMG Said strongly that Yuna can not stand even some of the world ice show. IMG had 2 billion litigation against her, December 2007.
IMG was defeated in the litigation.
Until now, they have been interrupting yuna's show(korea)-Taking first contracted Skaters, Malicious media play...
Yuna's korean fans know all the facts. Even foreign fans who watched her for a long time.
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Let Japan skaters train at the cricket, Japan figure skating federation officials have begun to access. Security cracked.
(And sessions were full of skaters. Too many.....;) -->Orser confessed it.
Yuna's mom(ATS) was responsible korean skaters(ATS member: Min-Jung Kwak, Haejin KIM...). She had to think about Yuna as well as other skaters.
They(ATS) thought to raise the korean novice, Junior skaters and sponsored korean skaters. (In South Korea, there is no rink for figure skaters)
Training environment and security were important part.
Orser's actions lost their trust.
I think they were shocked and disappointed about orser's action
ATS didn't t mention about it specifically. This(Japan skaters' coach) was revealed by korea media.
They became uncomfortable relationship from May. Orser side didn't care for her anymore. In June, She has trained alone. This is true that he recognized(CTV). She thought he is no longer interested in her.
You may think that this is a small but the relationship between Japan and South Korea are not simple. We had a sad history invaded by them.
But I think he lost her trust before.
Despite Orser had received Asada(IMG)'s coach suggestion in Turin(March) , he recognized it, when Korea media reported this fact in April.
If this fact had not been reported in the media, he would have never said.
He compared Yuna with Asada contract condition.
He gave her the press through Asada's contact(After korea media reported Asada(IMG)'s coach suggestion, Orser sent an E-mail to Yuna, 25 April 2010
---> E-mail : Asada Mao offered him a coaching, Orser sent an E-mail to
chicago tribune, Korea SBS, 25 August 2010).
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According to LA Ice Show first Ticketing date, He announced the breakup through the agency(IMG) of his own. It's the same as their(IMG) actions until now(they interrupted the Yuna's show).
He quickly took several media interviews.
He made himself into a pathetic victim. He involve her mom into his plan.
He made her over-solicitous mom. He blamed Yuna's mom for the breakup.
At first, most media blamed Yuna's mom without investigating the facts(His word is true or not, Breakup background...). Some justice reporters reported fact exactly.
However, Orser's words widely spread. He said as the image of a gentleman.
He accustomed to English and handling the media.
ATS(Yuna, Mom) didn't know that he will act so.
They are not ready state at all, they had to meet the media suddenly.
ATS as a startup company had no skills for dealing with media.
His words were different between Korea and Canada.
In South Korea, he recognized about Asada Mao's coach contact. But In Canada, didn't recognize.
He said Yuna didn't know these things.
But he knows that she is always determined(Through his interviews until now).
Why his words are different?
(Japan magazine revealed 'Asada Mao offered him a coaching' through Japan Skating Federation official's words, September 2010)
I think Orser was careless about he blamed Yuna's mom for the Breakup.
Fans were angry about this. They(watched for a long time) are know her(Yuna & mom) well.
Yuna's mom is not over-solicitous mom. Mom is friendly and good-natured.
She(mom) was always polite until now. She acted wisely and has a clear vision and prudent, patience.
She does not dominate Yuna. She always asks her opinion.
She respect Yuna's opinion. Also, she is really loyal to Yuna's people.
One example>
When Yuna went to middle school, In Suri high school, gave a small donation for Yuna. At that time She(Yuna,Mom) was very hard without a sponsor. Though a little money, they only helped her.
Mom was very grateful. When she became known, in another high schools was offered to her good conditions for entrance.
She chose loyalty than benefit, Yuna went to Suri high school. Some people thought she behaves foolishly.
Because the Suri high school could not give a big support, She(Yuna,Mom) must suffer again without financial support.
In addition, there are many such examples.
Another, She is an expert in the figure skating, not an ordinary mother.
She taught her(Yuna) 'Textbook Jumps'. Of course, Korea coaches also taught it. But they followed her mother's special request(Textbook Jumps).
In that time, there were skaters that don't jump as textbook in the world.
Also korea coaches could not use all the time for Yuna. Their coaching was limited.
So available all the time she was studied for figure skating technique.
She invested all the time and taught until Yuna's jump perfectly.
coaches thought she was great.
Orser also helped Yuna for the gold medal, but She is a mentor(teacher) to Yuna than Orser.
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Yuna does not shake the Mom's words. She has her own beliefs.
I can't understand the mention of his money. I don't think about cost of coaching less. He has coached an hour a day for her. He had no coaching experience before her.
He had additional income-Whenever competition incentive, Incentive after the Olympic, Competition prize, CF, Autobiography sold in South Korea,Yuna show's director cost, National(Korea) reward after the Olympic.
However, his word-they(CF, Autobiography sold in South Korea) are not related to her? He did not speak for additional income.
Generally, the first Coaches tell his own cost of coach to skaters.
Usually skaters do not oppose and pay for it.
They agreed with each other but why he tell cost of coach now?
Also, Why he revealed her free program without her agree?
In addition, he said "I think it would be better for her to leave the club."(chicago tribune interview). Did he have to say so?
ATS did not want to mention specifically. ATS said that he(Orser) know reasons for the Breakup.
They(ATS) did not renew the contract., not fire. They said have a rest time him, 2 August 2010.
I think they could easily decide(coach renew the contract ) since all these things. Also, I think he knows reasons for the Breakup.
And they had some problems in 4 years.
Yuna confessed it. I guess difference between training methods.
Because they grew up in different culture can have different ideas.
Even though there was some problem, they(Yuna,Mom) believed him and followed. This can be proved by four.
---> Though there was some problem, their relationship was maintained during 4 years. 4 years is a long time.
In an interview, Orser had said that in meeting after the Olympic Yuna was crying and very grateful to me, David, all staff.
And in TV show after the Olympic Yuna said to him and David, all staff "Thank you very much". She weep tears of gratitude.
They(Yuna,Mom) invited him to the ice show director(FOI, 16~18 April 2010).
He always was director of korea ice show.
Now their faith was shattered. He went too far.
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http://www.requiredelements.com/
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Their faith was shattered. It will be difficult to recover.
I think that because Orser also knew it(Yuna, mom's thoughts), he said it(he would not care anymore).
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His words($110 an hour, August 2010) are different about cost of coaching. Why different?
'오서 코치는 훈련에 따른 레슨비를 시간·내용에 따라 꼼꼼하게 계산해 청구하는 타입이다. 1회 레슨 50분을 기준으로 평균 150캐나다달러(약 16만원) 안팎이라고 한다. 김연아만 전담해 가르치면 수업료를 좀 더 올리고, 아담 리폰 등 다른 제자와 함께 지도하면 줄이는 식이다.'
Translation: 'He accurately calculated about lessons cost of training.
Based on 50 minute lessons(once)-->average 150 dollar or so thereabouts.
If He only teaches her, raise more cost of coaching. or he teaches with other skaters, reduce the cost of coaching.'
-http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/15...
December 16,2009-
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